Missing the Point: Fussing About Gay Marriage

The last few days there have been several comments pro and con on my recent post “What’s Love Got to Do With It?” (See below.) The main criticism leveled by my detractors was that I should not have made the comparison between gay marriage and human/animal marriage. A couple of friends charged that this was a “red herring” argument. And that really made me laugh because I had just read an article online where a woman in the UK “married” a dolphin and gave it a kiss and a herring as a wedding present. I wondered if it was red. (Check it out here .)

The point, of course, is that once you redefine marriage to be allowed between two people simply because they “love each other,” you have removed the creational mandate for marriage in the first place. When you do so, marriage becomes a reflection of whatever culture wants it to be rather than what God created it to be. When we do this, why not allow incestuous marriage, which God restricted under the Law? Why not marriage between old men and young boys? The Greeks and Romans had no problem with pederasty, why should we? What about marriage between three or four people? Jeffrey Lord in the American Spectator has a deadly serious satire along these lines. (Check it out here .)
 
Others wondered if marriage between the elderly or otherwise “unfruitful” should not be allowed since I argued that the reason for marriage was to “be fruitful and multiply.” But I do not mean to say that the only purpose for marriage is to have children. I mean to say that “be fruitful and multiply” is the beginning of a dominion program for which marriage is the central instrument. Companionship is a valid reason for marriage, as long as that marriage is formed for the central purpose of creational and covenantal dominion.

And even so, any companionship that can truly be called a marriage is still between a man and a woman. When God created a fitting helper for man, He gave him a woman. So, even from the standpoint of companionship, two male companions are not married, no matter what the judge says. They may be friends, they may even be lovers, but they are not married. Marriage is by definition between a man and a woman. And it is so because God said so. 
 
The next objection is tired and worn. This one says that, if we cannot marry our best buddy because God said so, then we cannot eat shrimp since God forbade it under the Law of Moses. Besides, it  would certainly lead down the slippery slope to cannibalism, as one so cleverly put it. But this completely overlooks libraries filled with volumes addressing the question of how the New Covenant in Christ fulfills the Old Covenant law. We are free to eat shrimp because Jesus declared all foods clean, and Paul confirmed it over and over shouting, “Yee Haw!” in Hebrew all the way down to Fiorella’s Jack Stack Barbecue for a rack of ribs. The man loved his liberty in Christ.

But neither Jesus nor Paul ever said that homosexuality is now okay since Christ has made us free. In fact, both Jesus and Paul said the opposite. Jesus reaffirmed that God made marriage “male and female” (Matthew 19:4), and Paul was clear in several places that the New Covenant still holds to the original creational pattern of male and female marriage. (Romans 1, etc)
 
And then, finally, another friend noted that marriage is a “legal contract” with legal benefits unique for married people. Thus, we must offer that equally to all people. But that misses two things–at least. First, Christian society sanctioned marriage both on the civil and ecclesiastical levels and provided certain benefits for marriage in order to support it and promote it. The old folks, bless their hearts, used to believe that society did better when based on the foundation of strong marriage and family. So, they created certain benefits for getting and staying married. Second, we cannot reduce marriage down to just a legal contract. As if anyone really thinks for a moment that this debate is merely over property rights, hospital visitation and custody of Fido. The ramifications are much larger than tax deductions. 
 
But the real point is that none of this was my point in the first place. My point, and all my gay-marriage proponent friends should listen closely right here, is that the real root of all this confusion–and I mean confusion in the biblical sense–is heterosexual hypocrisy. The reason we are in this mess is because we have tolerated adultery and unbiblical divorce, mocking God and all His quaint ideas about hating divorce and such. I am not preaching to homosexuals. At least not here. I do preach to them, and I am ecstatic when they repent of their sin. But the real sin I am after here is the sin of fragmenting families. 
 
And this point must not get lost in all the furor and hubbub. We need family renewal! We must pray for God to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children and the hearts of the children to the fathers. If the church will start praying for renewal in our own homes and stop wasting our time trying to halt the gay agenda, then the revival that we need will flow up out of the heart of this nation. That is really what I am trying to say. And I plan to say it more and more. As you might imagine.  

 

Published by Steve Pixler

Steve Pixler is lead pastor of Freedom Life Church in Mansfield, TX. Steve lives in Mansfield with his wife, Jeana, and their six children.

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  1. Excellent dissertation! I only wish that more people in America, and in the Church of the Living God, could discuss the difficult to define issues, like the destruction of the family, that are bringing us to the edge of losing everything we hold so precious, that God has allowed us to enjoy. God Bless and Strengthen you Bro. Pixler

  2. Well put Pastor, the lack of family values in this country is the biggest problem we face. If we put families back together, get the parents out of the bars on Friday night and home with their children, get kids off the T.V’s and away from the utter filth they see on it, and put value back on family values we can see a major change but until then there is no hope.

  3. You can sugarcoat it all you want but at the end of the day you’re still just a bigot.

    1. And you’re blinded by your insipid intellect. This is made evident by your lack of cohesive and cogent argument…choosing, instead, to simply stoop to name-calling.

    2. Garrett the true definition of a biggot is someone who tries to impose his views on everyone else for the sake of acceptance. No where is it in the Bible or the US Constitution for that matter that we have to accept it into our religion. People are going to do what they want to do, but there is no sense in making everyone else sick with it. What goes on with a man and woman should stay between them. homosexuals should be the same way. To suggest that God made men or women gay would suggest that God was confused about their gender. The Bible says that God is not the author of confusion. So who does that leave? The sad thing about this country is that people want to force others to accept them. Those are the biggots. We do not force anyone to go to church and live for God, because we understand that not everyone is going to accept truth. Some people wuld rather have their own form of “truth” that lines up to their own life styule instead of having to give anything of them selves. Ask your self, Who am I to ask the King of all Kings and creator of everything to change for little old me. I have heard some agrue that Christians should be “tolerant” like Jesus was. But Jesus was not tolerant. He was forgiving. We are talking about the same man that over turned the tables in the temple and the same God that destroyed Sodom and Gomarrah for some of the very same things. He told the woman at the well “Go your way and sin no more”. He did not say “Well thats ok, I will make an exception for you”. No one ever wants to admit that they could be wrong. The common attitude of people vexed with spirits is “Leave me alone” and “dont preach against that”. BUt all I am hearing is excuses from people who say they cant help it, they were born that way. What about the child molestors? Can they help it? At one point, yes they could have, but when you start to compromise values and throw morality out the window, you are opening your self up for so much more. So you have to ask your self as you are on this downward spiral “where does it stop?” or “Can I even stop?” The guys who have moested little boys, they are GAY. It makes you wonder at what point their journey with perversion began. It is similar to a coke head starting with what is classified as entry level drugs like marijuana. they are both bad, but the effects of cocaine is much more severe. Calling people biggots rather than facing reality and doing real soul searching is the typical card we expect to get played in cases like this. But I assure you that Bro Pixler is a compassionate and loving man of God who would love to pray every homosexual in the country through to the HolyGhost. If you havent experienced it, dont write it off since you are so open minded.

      1. Keep telling the good news sir they called Jesus names and shamed him too, but he never backed up , he went to the cross for us all. We have a choice, the same we have always had one leads to destruction another to life everlasting

  4. Bro Pixler:
    Have you followed or read any of the articles written by a man named Dennis Prayger on this subject? They are very good and full of both common, which is not so common, sense and deep thought. I very much agree with your thoughts on this topice. My main sticking point is that we have one group pushing like mad to get a license and a second group pulling back from same?

  5. While a revival of the family is needed and wanted, Satan destroyed the unity and fabric of the heavenly host in order to bring rebellion and war to Heaven. That “Type and Shadow” now clearly points to it’s “Antitype” THE TIME OF THE END. Daniel 11:37 tells of the Antichrist’s proclivities are also against God’s creative purpose.”Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.” His spawn will bear his evil. “A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a bad tree produce good fruit”

  6. As usual Bro. Pixler, you are spot-on! Marriage has been unappreciated and disrespected for at least the last 2 generations of Americans. You are correct sir, the mistreatment of marriage by heterosexuals has brought us to where we are today, it’s no wonder the masses are confused.

  7. perversion is a CRIME agenst God and agenst man.plain and simple.as much so as is robery, murder, and all other crime. it is all sin. WE should not even consider to debate any futher than that because it says all that needs to be said. either repent or die in your sins. and pass no law saying other wise.

  8. The first and original meaning of the word ‘gay’ is ‘merry, happy’ etc.

    The word ‘gay’ appears once in the king james bible. It is found in the book of james and speaks of ‘gay’ apparel.

    Using this original definition of the word, all marriages should be gay, that is happy and merry.

    The word ‘homosexual’ does not appear in the king james version of the bible once.

    The scriptures are filled with condemnations of rape, violence, hate, and abuse in any form.

    The Old Testament does contain a reference to a man laying with a man as if with a woman. It also is filled with condemnation of eating shell fish, wearing clothes of two fabrics, picking up sticks on Saturday, and other such things that are not counted as rubish under the gospel of Grace.

    The Gospel of Grace is outlined clear in Romans 5:18-19, as well as multitudes of other texts. These verses state, “Therefor as by the offence of ONE judgment came upon ALL men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of ONE the free gift came upon ALL men unto justification of life. For as by ONE man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of ONE shall many be made righteous.” The Gospel is that all who were condemned in Adam are justified in Christ. Christ is the Savior of the World. As stated in II Corinthians 5:19, “To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the WORLD unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them…”

    The question of same gender loving people being allowed to marry is any easy one. We need simply find one example of a man being married to a man that was approved of by God and the issue would be settled. Can we find such an example?

    Paul the Apostle wrote of our union with Jesus Christ and said, “For I have Espoused you to One Husband.” Isaiah 54:5 states that Our Maker is our Husband. Other verses speak of Jesus being our Husband, but these two are sufficient.

    I am a man.
    I am married to a Man.
    I am married to The Man, Christ Jesus.
    My marriage to Jesus transcends sexuality. In Christ there is neither male nor female, for we are all one in Christ.
    When I was baptized in the name of Jesus Christ, I was told that this was a symbol and seal of my marriage to Jesus Christ, and being His bride. Baptism was compared to a marriage ring in the Oneness movement I was a part of.
    Steve…how can you write on the issue of same gender marriage in a condemnatory way…when you yourself have ONE HUSBAND…Jesus the Christ. Jesus is fully God and fully man. You are married to the God-Man. You are a bride and have a Husband.

    I mean, even the Pope wears a wedding ring because he is married to Jesus Christ.

    I am just saying Steve, you have bigger battles to fight than this one, but if all same gender marriages are wrong…please don’t be right…I would hate to see you divorce Jesus.

    Peace and Love 2 U and Yours,
    Christian

    1. Jesus is married to a woman, the church. It is a matter of corporate identity. I am not married to Jesus as an individual, but as a covenant member of the body of Christ. My baptism was my covenantal incorporation into the church, the bride. The bride, the Lamb’s wife, is the city, the New Jerusalem, the church.

      In Christ, there is no longer “male or female, slave or free, Greek or barbarian, Jew or Gentile,” but all of that is a matter of corporate salvation in the New Covenant, not personal identity. Our standing before God in Christ is equal, but our roles are still diverse, and our maleness and femaleness continue to manifest distinct aspects of the image of God.

      This is why Paul continues to address men as men and women as women throughout his writings. The discussion of headship in I Corinthians 11 (God-Christ-husband/male-wife/female) makes no sense if God does not still recognize gender roles in the New Covenant. In the resurrection, when gender distinctions no longer play the same covenantal role that they do now, marriage will end as a gender-distinct, unity-in-diversity relational manifestation of the image of God. Then, Jesus said, we shall be as the angels. So, until the resurrection, as long as there is marriage at all, it must remain between gender-distinguished men and women.

      Marriage is intended to manifest the relationship between Christ and the church, which is a marriage between a man and a woman. Thus, gay marriage strikes at the heart of God’s self-revelation, mars the male-female image of God revealed mysteriously in marriage, and makes it impossible for the willfully blinded to see God in the creational covenant of everyday relationships. That is, of course, Satan’s goal in the gay marriage agenda: to blind the world to the revelation of God manifest in marriage.

  9. note, the phrase ‘other such things not counted as rubish’ should read ‘other such things NOW counted as rubish under the gospel of grace. correct that spelling for me if you can. Thanks and peace.

  10. The first and original meaning of the word ‘gay’ is ‘merry, happy’ etc.

    The word ‘gay’ appears once in the king james bible. It is found in the book of james and speaks of ‘gay’ apparel.

    Using this original definition of the word, all marriages should be gay, that is happy and merry.

    The word ‘homosexual’ does not appear in the king james version of the bible once.

    The scriptures are filled with condemnations of rape, violence, hate, and abuse in any form.

    The Old Testament does contain a reference to a man laying with a man as if with a woman. It also is filled with condemnation of eating shell fish, wearing clothes of two fabrics, picking up sticks on Saturday, and other such things that are now counted as rubish under the gospel of Grace.

    The Gospel of Grace is outlined clear in Romans 5:18-19, as well as multitudes of other texts. These verses state, “Therefor as by the offence of ONE judgment came upon ALL men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of ONE the free gift came upon ALL men unto justification of life. For as by ONE man’s disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of ONE shall many be made righteous.” The Gospel is that all who were condemned in Adam are justified in Christ. Christ is the Savior of the World. As stated in II Corinthians 5:19, “To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the WORLD unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them…”

    The question of same gender loving people being allowed to marry is any easy one. We need simply find one example of a man being married to a man that was approved of by God and the issue would be settled. Can we find such an example?

    Paul the Apostle wrote of our union with Jesus Christ and said, “For I have Espoused you to One Husband.” Isaiah 54:5 states that Our Maker is our Husband. Other verses speak of Jesus being our Husband, but these two are sufficient.

    I am a man.
    I am married to a Man.
    I am married to The Man, Christ Jesus.
    My marriage to Jesus transcends sexuality. In Christ there is neither male nor female, for we are all one in Christ.
    When I was baptized in the name of Jesus Christ, I was told that this was a symbol and seal of my marriage to Jesus Christ, and being His bride. Baptism was compared to a marriage ring in the Oneness movement I was a part of.
    Steve…how can you write on the issue of same gender marriage in a condemnatory way…when you yourself have ONE HUSBAND…Jesus the Christ. Jesus is fully God and fully man. You are married to the God-Man. You are a bride and have a Husband.

    I mean, even the Pope wears a wedding ring because he is married to Jesus Christ.

    I am just saying Steve, you have bigger battles to fight than this one, but if all same gender marriages are wrong…please don’t be right…I would hate to see you divorce Jesus.

    Peace and Love 2 U and Yours,
    Christian

  11. A fast thought on Sodom and Gomorrah….

    The story of Sodom tells of two angels who went down into the city, and were greeted by a lust infused mob who were seeking to rape them. I accept the story as written.

    As you know, there were two angels who went into the city and were the focus of the attempted gang rape. Angels are neither male nor female. They are spirits. They are not human. It is impossible to have homosexual or heterosexual relationships with a non sexual entity. Homosexuality with angels is impossible. Heterosexual relationships with angels are impossible. They are not human. They are spirits. Sodom and Gomorrah tells of an evil that existed in that day and in our today. Rape and forced sex is never acceptable. Then or now. It has nothing to do with homosexuality…because again…you can’t be gay with a non male angel.

    Truth well said.
    Peace and Love,
    Christian

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